Date Night April 12th

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This is a quick, fun and helpful 1 hour “shot in the arm” for your marriage. Our first experiment in January was a huge success and Jim Burns and I will be back with another helpful experience for your marriage.

The goal is to get you thinking about your marriage, and get you out of the house for some fun. Plenty of appetizers, coffee, free photos, prizes, humor, helpful & challenging marriage instruction. Then, after the short program, head-out to your favorite date spot and continue the discussion, or just hang out together!

$10 per couple, online registration required.

Limited on-site childcare is available for no additional fee. Register today to reserve your spot.

A free night away given to the winner of the Creative Kiss Contest. Click here to upload your photo and win a special overnight date.

Questions? Email: datenight@marinerschurch.org

Friday, April 12…6:30pm


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4 principles for raising your kids… while doing ministry


I was honored to be asked to speak at the HIM Conference this last weekend in Waiki, HI. It’s an amazing conference with strong communicators such as Francis Chan, Tony Campolo, Dr. Gary Chapman (5 Love Language fame), and Nancy Duarte (who presented a fascinating message on communication). I had never been and I hope to return… a really good conference.

One of the workshops I presented there was titled, Raising Kids While Doing Ministry. When I was a young minister I feared that ministry would wound my family. I had heard numerous stories of the crazed “PK” (pastor’s kid) who was out of control—they were common stories. Actually, this premises still seems to gather attention and is currently being promoted by the show Preachers’ Daughter.

Today, our kids are 24, 21, & 18 and all love Jesus, the church, and their family. Raising our kids in ministry worked for us and wasn’t the colossal failure that I had feared.

When Cathy and I sat down to identify some principles that could be connected to intentional actions, we came up with the following four. I’m sure there’s more, but these are ones we can say that we intentionally sought out. They are:

1.The PERKS principle: we included our kids in our ministry as soon as they were born. Our kids got to go places and do things that most kids didn’t (camps and conferences). There are perks of being in ministry—you just have to look for them (i.e. keys to the sanctuary, access to the church kitchen/refrigerator, a flexible schedule, etc…).

2.The PEOPLE principle: we surrounded our kids with incredibly wonderful people, friends & mentors. Meetings in our home, amazing volunteers, interns and staff that rubbed shoulders with our family. These were the people who baby-sat, hung-out with, mentored and led our kids closer to Jesus. Our children were influenced by a community of amazing people and we are so grateful.

3. The PRESENCE principle: Because of the flexibility of a ministry schedule (perk), we arranged everything within our calendars to be at our kids’ stuff. Since I didn’t work a 9-5, M-F type job, I had the freedom to attend events during the day and coach sports in the afternoon. Ministry kept us busy, but our calendar time kept us focused and present. Our children have adopted this principle and are now present for us and one another.

4. The PERFORMANCE principle: We allowed and encouraged them to be themselves. Ministers teach their congregation that they should be who God created them to be… but, so often within ministry, families want their kids to be who “others” want them to be. This was a tough one for me, but with the help of my wife, I worked hard not to allow my own insecurity (what others would think of me) to wound our children. We became aware at a young age that we needed to either focus on their behavior (behavior modification) or focus on following Jesus. As much as they didn’t feel pressure from us, we soon realized that they would feel pressure from others (about being PK’s) and that pressure (from others) was more than enough.

We weren’t perfect parents! You won’t be either, but the stories that scared me about raising kids in ministry aren’t the only stories out there. The story that was written about family and ministry is one we’d want written again… and we’d want it for others too.


Question: If you are in ministry, which of these 4 principles seems the most difficult for your family? Share your thoughts here.



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Messy Marriage or Messy Ministry? Which comes first?

It’s the proverbial “chicken or the egg” conundrum—which comes first?

Messy marriage, therefore, messy ministry?

Or

Messy ministry, therefore, messy marriage?

Well, in my household, it’s been both/and. There were times when the messiness of my marriage made our ministry messier. And there were times when the messiness of our ministry made our marriage messier.

How marriage made the ministry messier …

• I can remember having to be “on” and smiling bright when we opened the doors of our house to the members of the church we’d planted more than twenty years ago. We had to do this even if we were feeling burned-out, uninspired, stretched-thin, or stressed-out—which seemed to be most of the time in those early and challenging days of marriage and parenthood.

• I can remember my husband’s difficulty in conducting any ministry business in his basement office, because it happened to be below our kitchen floor where our toddlers shouted, ran and even rode happily above—oblivious to their daddy’s predicament beneath them.

• I can remember how “daddy” made it everyone’s predicament, when he came storming up the stairs, yelling at our busy boys to use their “inside voices!”

• I can remember, on more than one occasion, my husband and I getting into an argument in the middle of a small group meeting in our home. Talk about making everyone feel awk-ward! Yikes! I’d never seen so many of our members burying their heads in their Bibles before! I would have been inspired, had I not been so irritated with our Bible teacher!

How the ministry may have made the marriage messier …

• I can remember the stresses of barely scraping by on an uncertain and meager church planter’s salary. Naturally, that gave us plenty of exciting and new topics to argue discuss when bill-paying time rolled around.

• I can remember the long and on-call hours that our fledgling church required. Boundaries, shm-oundries!

• I can remember the resistance and general bad attitudes that some of the church members brought with them to our meager mission church—often after being disgruntled with the church they just left. Those other churches might have kindly held the door wide open for these folks as they exited. But we thought we needed warm bodies to fill our vacant chairs—no matter how cantankerous that body was!

• I can remember the pressures from those same church members for us to know how to do something God-sized with our little bit of 20-something knowledge hopefulness.

• I can remember the back-biting and gossip that stung like a dagger in our hearts when our little church was rocked by difficult times and even more difficult attitudes.

Ministry requires a lot of a couple—especially a young couple that’s just trying to figure out marriage, much less ministry. I think we often forget that Satan wants to destroy anything of any power or significance to the kingdom of God. But even more often, we forget that our own fears and insecurities blind us to the many ways God wants to use us—imperfect and messy men and women.

I say all this just so that those of you who are on the frontlines and in the trenches of ministry know that you are not crazy, weird, failures, and most importantly, … you’re not alone. If you’re discouraged or simply worn-out, take heart that God does not waver in His call to you. And let these words resonate in your ears, “But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.” 1 Peter 2:20b (NIV)

Question: In what ways has ministry made your marriage messier or vice versa? Share your thoughts here

Guest Post: Beth Steffaniak is a pastor’s wife, counselor, life-coach and mom to three budding young men. She blogs at messymarriage.com, where her heart is to be “Real, Raw and Redemptive” about the messiness of life and marriage. She believes that God calls us to see the ugly, broken, desperate mess from His perspective—the eternal, unseen, redemptive side.

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